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Sigurd Sig Hansen
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Posted - 2012.05.07 20:50:00 -
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Atomic Virulent wrote:In recent months, I have had a few experiences that have made my time with EvE quite bitter. That off-color taste was a direct result of coming into contact with what is essentially the STD of New Eden... Goons. For one, I have a contact who was defrauded by Goons as a result of being contacted from within RECRUITMENT chat. At the time, the MOTD in the channel specifically stated that using to channel to scam was NOT ALLOWED. The player appealed, including the fact that the channel prohibits use of the channel for such things, and his loss of ISK but was flatly denied. Ironically, the MOTD changed the very next day and was sans the scam prohibition, only now WARNING against scams. CCP continued to LIE and claim that the MOTD had changed a month before the incident, which is still a complete LIE. Doing further research on Goons and their nefarious activities, it is hard to understand how a company, CCP, can allow a group of players to wreck such havoc on the entirety of the playerbase. This incident, in addition to anti-playerbase events such as 'Burn Jita' (trit was less after then it was before.. LOL!!), the sponsorship and basically now ownership of Hulkageddon, the custody of virtually every tech moon, every change in game benefiting Goons more than any other group, a flaky 30-day suspension for virtually laughing away a human being's life, joke or not.... and so on and so forth. I had come to my own personal conclusion that CCP and Goons have a deep, close relationship. Was I crazy or just looking for an answer that I could live with? Come to find out, one of CCP's most active and out front employees representing EvE, CCP Soundwave, was a Goon director, even presenting for the alliance at FanFest : See it here. Ya like that little sickness you are feeling knowing that their frontman is a f*cking Goon at heart? Given the knowledge, information and other abilities that ANY CCP employee has at their fingertips, it would be prudent, fair and HONEST to prohibit CCP employees from participating in the game. There is just too much B*LLSHIT Goons get away with that would not be tolerated by any other group not friendly to them. I have to believe that there are countless more CCP employees in Goon corps and blues. These close relationships create a most unfair and unbalanced situation. Knowing beforehand changes that players are not aware of, being able to reposition and strategize before the rest of the playerbase is aware is absolutely UNETHICAL
given that theyve dont it before... T20 was in a corp called Band of Brothers and he used his dev powers to spawn them T2 BPOS
Yeah ppl would much rather we forget about that of course
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.07 20:54:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:Atomic Virulent wrote:In recent months, I have had a few experiences that have made my time with EvE quite bitter. That off-color taste was a direct result of coming into contact with what is essentially the STD of New Eden... Goons. For one, I have a contact who was defrauded by Goons as a result of being contacted from within RECRUITMENT chat. At the time, the MOTD in the channel specifically stated that using to channel to scam was NOT ALLOWED. The player appealed, including the fact that the channel prohibits use of the channel for such things, and his loss of ISK but was flatly denied. Ironically, the MOTD changed the very next day and was sans the scam prohibition, only now WARNING against scams. CCP continued to LIE and claim that the MOTD had changed a month before the incident, which is still a complete LIE. Doing further research on Goons and their nefarious activities, it is hard to understand how a company, CCP, can allow a group of players to wreck such havoc on the entirety of the playerbase. This incident, in addition to anti-playerbase events such as 'Burn Jita' (trit was less after then it was before.. LOL!!), the sponsorship and basically now ownership of Hulkageddon, the custody of virtually every tech moon, every change in game benefiting Goons more than any other group, a flaky 30-day suspension for virtually laughing away a human being's life, joke or not.... and so on and so forth. I had come to my own personal conclusion that CCP and Goons have a deep, close relationship. Was I crazy or just looking for an answer that I could live with? Come to find out, one of CCP's most active and out front employees representing EvE, CCP Soundwave, was a Goon director, even presenting for the alliance at FanFest : See it here. Ya like that little sickness you are feeling knowing that their frontman is a f*cking Goon at heart? Given the knowledge, information and other abilities that ANY CCP employee has at their fingertips, it would be prudent, fair and HONEST to prohibit CCP employees from participating in the game. There is just too much B*LLSHIT Goons get away with that would not be tolerated by any other group not friendly to them. I have to believe that there are countless more CCP employees in Goon corps and blues. These close relationships create a most unfair and unbalanced situation. Knowing beforehand changes that players are not aware of, being able to reposition and strategize before the rest of the playerbase is aware is absolutely UNETHICAL given that theyve dont it before... T20 was in a corp called Band of Brothers and he used his dev powers to spawn them T2 BPOS Yeah ppl would much rather we forget about that of course No, actually we don't. From that incident we got the CSM and the Internal Affairs dept. at CCP, both of which we are far better off with than we were before.
Yeah the vaunted CSM whose original charter was to go to Iceland and play watchdog to make sure theyre not still cheating. Who have become (if we believe what they claim after the fact) the ones that give CCP THEIR marching orders except for the decisions they CUT the CSM out of entirely
silens vesica wrote:tl;dr Quote:CCP employees must be removed from the game. Why? 'Cause tin foil is starting to get a bit dear? Or because you fail at EVE?
or because they feel cheating in their own game IS NOT a firable offense
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
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Posted - 2012.05.07 20:58:00 -
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Jessie-A Tassik wrote:Calfis wrote:Atomic Virulent wrote: Doing further research on Goons and their nefarious activities, it is hard to understand how a company, CCP, can allow a group of players to wreck such havoc on the entirety of the playerbase.
Dude, its a sandbox, don't build sandcastles if you can't keep the kid with ass-burgers from tripping and falling on it.
Everyone that posts like thing along with what I would figure to be most of the Goons ARE "ass-burgers" sufferers Id be willing to bet. IE you doth protest too much bud
Meh thats OK, CCP will weed out the posting priveleges of anyone non goon soon enough. They can post and troll and break any rule here THEY WANT but WE get banned. Who'd put up with that long?
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.08 01:16:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Jessie-A Tassik wrote:Malcanis wrote:As many CCP employees as possible should play EVE. Ideally all of them would get in at least 6-8 hours a week. Only if they play as a NORMAL PLAYER not as a "I'M CCP SO SUCK UP TO ME" special favored little princess. Since CCP employee's can only have regular characters (unless using official, recognizable CCP accounts) and can not hold positions of power in any player organization, as well as being strictly monitored by IA, you have your wish.
Oh you mean other than the fact that the guy overseeing them is a Goon. Yeah I trust that
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.08 01:18:00 -
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Minabunny wrote:That will never happen. So wait for Gw2 to be released and quit eve and never look back.
I advocate this actually. Voet with your wallet. We saw it this summer. THATS what CCP watches
What we do not what we say
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.08 01:26:00 -
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Brock Khan wrote:
I have been saying for years now on various chars. that ccp bieng involved in player corps is insider trading and should be stopped. As well as the CSM members should not be allowed to have back to back terms, and should not be allowed to have more then 2 terms in 5 years. this goes for known and unknown alts. In turn the alliance as a whole should not be allowed to keep "electing" members to the board. This would create a beeter chance for a "CSM OF YOUR PEERS". Long story short CCP as a Corp the Corp that makes the game Should not allow "Employees" to play or communicate any changes or suggested changes to the game ahead of the offical devnotes. With programs like TS3 Vent.. etc Email blah blah alliances like goons spreading the "info they get from things like the CSM are easy to spread. Since these guys have 6 months or so to prepare, its no wonder they are always ahead of the curve.
You will bow to your new Goon overlords cause next CSM theyll vote one Goon for each seat. BOHICA
Patrick Estemaire wrote:The OP and many others are suffering from a very common gaming phenomenon where their paranoia that the developers are 'cheating' combines with disdain of those that seem to be 'winning' to create the delusion that the 'winners' and developers must be working together to keep everyone else down.
This is not healthy. You're taking things too seriously. There is no conspiracy. Remember to have fun.
And T20 never happened. Move along, nothing to see here
Goons and BFFs keep posting, I must fill up my red bars
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
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Posted - 2012.05.10 17:10:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:I seem to recall BOB denying it with equal fervor. History repeats I guess.
Yup. THEY didnt IM CCP when ppl shot at them tho; thats a new one
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
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Posted - 2012.05.10 17:12:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:
I believe the proper reply here is to inform you that no we do not expect you to have magical powers to detect developers playing within alliances. Nobody ever stated such. That is audited by IA. What we do expect is that if you are going to make allegations you have some basis for making them.
Ah, you mean like **********?
Or should I say Kugu since even his name is still banned from the forums six years later. Cause youre SO interested in those facts
Brooks Puuntai wrote:I hope that people realize that while to us Eve is a game, to those who work at CCP its a job and what pays their bills. After T20 I highly doubt many Devs would risk going to great lengths to manipulate the game in their favor at the risk of their job.
What RISK? Did they break that Icelandic law and fire him after it died down?
Edit: Hi, little Goon red bar, I see you
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.10 17:30:00 -
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Darth Tickles wrote:Ya, going from crying about your space pixel datacores to making unsubstantiated attacks on someone's professional conduct is pretty ******* unhinged behaviour. At this point you really need to unplug and evaluate your life.
Still think that unless we see massive unsubs nothing will change. See what they do not what they say seems in full effect unless you can point to where we've only said something and theyve scrapped it, unlike ppl leaving and we get a apology from Hilmar and a radical change in direction and refocusing on FiS instead of WiS?
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.10 17:37:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote:I hope that people realize that while to us Eve is a game, to those who work at CCP its a job and what pays their bills. After T20 I highly doubt many Devs would risk going to great lengths to manipulate the game in their favor at the risk of their job.
What RISK? Did they break that Icelandic law and fire him after it died down? Its hard to know the reasoning without actually working at CCP or knowing their contracts or employee's code of conduct agreement. .
Im using the excuse CCP GAVE US
That "icelandic law" thing? Yeah I didnt pull that from my ass.
Brooks Puuntai wrote:but even still your missing the point. Obviously since it is a job to them and how they support themselves and/or their families its not worth the potential risk.
Youre missing the point... what risk? And it WAS worth the risk before lol
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.10 17:48:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Andrey Wartooth wrote:
Could you link us to this icelandic law?
Youre talking to a guy whose told you he has Goons blocked Edit: which he can see now since I quoted it lol
When it was brought to light by kugu, supposedly there was only a skeleton crew on staff, he was disciplined somehow then (as we were told then), and when it was later asked for his firing, we were told they couldnt because of an Icelandic law that made it illegal to punish him twice. As for a link, ask CCP. Its not MY fault if your account is too young to have been there
Cutout Man wrote:CCP Arkanon wrote:You're describing someone actively seeking to sabotage CCP, even in the hiring process. You're right that it would be hard to catch someone willing to jump through secret service level hoops to hide from us, but I'm confident we would catch them eventually.
And then there would be no question of that person's guilt, seeing as they've exhibited malicious intent from the get go, thereby sacrificing their career both with CCP and probably within the MMO industry as a whole. There really aren't that many people out there that think this is a good idea, I've found. You're assuming an active desire to "sabotage" the hiring process. It is actually much, much simpler than that. Any person in this game who has actively participated in the more involved forms of the spy game would have already done all of the things I mentioned and many other things simply to evade the more intricate forms of alliance counterintelligence.
How many stories have you heard of where ppl run months/half year long infiltration ops? Guiding Hand?
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.10 17:51:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:Darth Tickles wrote:So you're attempting to create a false controversy over people's real life careers to encourage people to unsub so that CCP will then reverse the decision to alter the datacore mechanics?
You are seriously ****** in the head, no hyperbole. :eveo:
Says the Goon
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
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Posted - 2012.05.10 17:54:00 -
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Doctor Ungabungas wrote:Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:Darth Tickles wrote:So you're attempting to create a false controversy over people's real life careers to encourage people to unsub so that CCP will then reverse the decision to alter the datacore mechanics?
You are seriously ****** in the head, no hyperbole. :eveo: Says the Goon Would you like to be a goon? It costs :10bux: Literally anyone with the capacity to use a keyboard and access to money can be a goon.
Yes, I read the red bar... How IS it youre the only corp allowed to require real money to get in?
I dont see te normal BS about how the money isfor your forums in that post
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:08:00 -
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Malphilos wrote:Andrey Wartooth wrote: YOU AND ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE ARE MESSING WITH REAL PEOPLES LIVES AND FAMILIES HERE
Wait... you think CCP is going to fire someone over this thread? Classical hysteria... the kind for which doctors used to administer vibrator treatments.
Lol if they didnt over cheating in the game why the hell would they over the forums?
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
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Posted - 2012.05.10 20:46:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:Wyke Mossari wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote: Our employee's right to not have random people on the internet use a public forum (least of all our own) to paint them as criminals, pedophiles, or any other in the gamut of accusations that have been tossed around, including in this thread, far outweighs anyone's right to be a jerk on the internet and to be completely honest I feel like I'm posting from some alternate reality to even have to make that statement.
Just because some people over play things, doesn't mean that the concerns of the more reasonable players are groundless. Two recent examples that have certainly raised a few eye brows are Soundwave tendency to lock threads critical of Goons and the seemingly priority petition queue enjoyed by the Goons. My petitions always seem to take days or weeks to be answered I've certainly never had a petition answered in hours never mind minutes. When allegations are made in most free western countries, the police (authorities) investigate and if necessary collect the evidence, not expect the public to do it. Internal Affairs needs to be more pro-active and seen to be so. However I don't believe that means the Dev should automatically loose their job, but lesser punishments for lesser transgression would make this less of all or nothing scenario. e.g. lose the Character in the alliance is appropriate for creating a conflict of interest by seeming to favour that alliance. Nobody said IA doesn't collect evidence.
Dont know anything about that, what I do know is the track record to ban ppl that bring employee wrongdoings to light that you cant say their names on the forums 6 years later
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
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Posted - 2012.05.10 20:59:00 -
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HVAC Repairman wrote:arcca jeth wrote:Expected defensive response by a GOON
the BOB Tech 2 BPO stain will always linger expected response from a hisec tinfoil hat wearing mouth breathing pubbie
Andrey Wartooth wrote:HVAC Repairman wrote:[quote=arcca jeth]the evidence is there, it's called EVE history. They've done it in the past, what would keep them from doing it again? that's not evidence that's baseless speculation Baseless speculation based on past events.
Oh crap the Goons are disagreeing! Wait! Youre not allowed to have independant thoughts in the Hive!!
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
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Posted - 2012.05.10 21:03:00 -
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arcca jeth wrote:HVAC Repairman wrote:arcca jeth wrote:HVAC Repairman wrote:arcca jeth wrote:Expected defensive response by a GOON
the BOB Tech 2 BPO stain will always linger expected response from a hisec tinfoil hat wearing mouth breathing pubbie lol now your resulting to name calling. how very entertaining and quite intelligent of you. just another mindless GOON you're I type how i want sucka
Its at that point the gewn got blocked like he should have been anyways lol
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
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Posted - 2012.05.10 21:05:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:This thread gives me a headache.
I like your sig
Hestja wrote:Atomic Virulent wrote: CCP employees must be removed from the game.
nooo!!! they drop nice loot but yeah, CCP plays there own game, nothing u can do about that
Dont they remove that loot when players get it?
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